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		<title>By: Loree</title>
		<link>http://winemedinemecincinnati.com/2008/07/female-bloggers-are-we-taken-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-914</link>
		<dc:creator>Loree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m late to the game here. I can&#039;t say that I&#039;ve encountered too much sexism in blogging (admittedly a side gig) or in writing/journalism (my day job). But, I think it&#039;s always a topic worth discussing, and wouldn&#039;t be surprised to see it happen more to women who cover typically male-dominated topics. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think BlogHer sounded amazing and fun and interesting and I was totes jealous of my friends that got to go, but... I wonder if we&#039;re doing ourselves a bit of a disservice with things like hanging &quot;You Are Perfect&quot; notes on stalls at a women&#039;s-oriented conference. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think it takes away from what the conference is--a meeting of hundreds of incredibly influential women--and makes it all the more difficult to be taken seriously. But, that&#039;s just my two cents. I&#039;ve never been a &quot;Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus&quot; kind of feminist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m late to the game here. I can&#8217;t say that I&#8217;ve encountered too much sexism in blogging (admittedly a side gig) or in writing/journalism (my day job). But, I think it&#8217;s always a topic worth discussing, and wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see it happen more to women who cover typically male-dominated topics. </p>
<p>I think BlogHer sounded amazing and fun and interesting and I was totes jealous of my friends that got to go, but&#8230; I wonder if we&#8217;re doing ourselves a bit of a disservice with things like hanging &#8220;You Are Perfect&#8221; notes on stalls at a women&#8217;s-oriented conference. </p>
<p>I think it takes away from what the conference is&#8211;a meeting of hundreds of incredibly influential women&#8211;and makes it all the more difficult to be taken seriously. But, that&#8217;s just my two cents. I&#8217;ve never been a &#8220;Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus&#8221; kind of feminist.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda-- I firmly believe that you haven&#039;t arrived as a blogger until you&#039;ve had your first troll.  I arrived a few months ago, but they keep me on my toes!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ll check that out.  Maybe I&#039;ll call in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda&#8211; I firmly believe that you haven&#8217;t arrived as a blogger until you&#8217;ve had your first troll.  I arrived a few months ago, but they keep me on my toes!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll check that out.  Maybe I&#8217;ll call in!</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Sherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda Sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, Have you heard of Liz Strauss?  She has a cool Open Mike on Tuesday nights.  Tonight&#039;s open mike theme is &quot;trolls&quot;.  Just saw that last comment from anonymous - you might like to start with that one.&lt;br/&gt;http://www.successful-blog.com/ 7PM Chicago time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, Have you heard of Liz Strauss?  She has a cool Open Mike on Tuesday nights.  Tonight&#8217;s open mike theme is &#8220;trolls&#8221;.  Just saw that last comment from anonymous &#8211; you might like to start with that one.<br /><a href="http://www.successful-blog.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.successful-blog.com/</a> 7PM Chicago time.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We let women vote; I think we should leave it at that.  I really don&#039;t think women are suited for politics, business, etc. If there were decent money or political power in mopping, washing dishes, cleaning, etc, then women might be taken more seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We let women vote; I think we should leave it at that.  I really don&#8217;t think women are suited for politics, business, etc. If there were decent money or political power in mopping, washing dishes, cleaning, etc, then women might be taken more seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: 5chw4r7z</title>
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		<dc:creator>5chw4r7z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is probably one of the things that as a man living in a mans world, I&#039;m not qualified to comment on but if it makes you feel any better when I talked to Liz Wu she seemed totally clueless about the blog scene. Typical reporting, do some superficial research, throw out some buzz words and publish your story. And I have to say I thought that thinking a guy wrote the story, then she told me she wrote it.&lt;br/&gt;But as for personal blogs, how seriously is anyone really taken? And technical blogs? I judge them all the same, but I&#039;m weird so you may have a valid point across the general population.&lt;br/&gt;I must say, I love The Girl Who Ate Everything.&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m the boy who ate everything.&lt;br/&gt;As long as it didn&#039;t touch anything else on the plate.&lt;br/&gt;And was white.&lt;br/&gt;And not squishy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is probably one of the things that as a man living in a mans world, I&#8217;m not qualified to comment on but if it makes you feel any better when I talked to Liz Wu she seemed totally clueless about the blog scene. Typical reporting, do some superficial research, throw out some buzz words and publish your story. And I have to say I thought that thinking a guy wrote the story, then she told me she wrote it.<br />But as for personal blogs, how seriously is anyone really taken? And technical blogs? I judge them all the same, but I&#8217;m weird so you may have a valid point across the general population.<br />I must say, I love The Girl Who Ate Everything.<br />I&#8217;m the boy who ate everything.<br />As long as it didn&#8217;t touch anything else on the plate.<br />And was white.<br />And not squishy.</p>
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		<title>By: WestEnder</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestEnder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: sports reporters&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Short answer: yes.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Long answer: Yes, but it&#039;s not because there aren&#039;t good women available. I think TV producers orient coverage to appeal to the sports fan who is most likely to buy advertisers&#039; products, and that is the stereotypical beer-drinking dumb ass.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So the men do the analysis and the women provide the eye-candy. It&#039;s a classic case of a marketplace decision that results in a lower quality product that sells better than a high quality product.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you want to see the eye candy situation taken to a truly absurd level, watch Jillian Reynolds on FOX NFL Sunday. Her job is to dress, talk and behave like a total bimbo. Trust me, it will make you sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: sports reporters</p>
<p>Short answer: yes.</p>
<p>Long answer: Yes, but it&#8217;s not because there aren&#8217;t good women available. I think TV producers orient coverage to appeal to the sports fan who is most likely to buy advertisers&#8217; products, and that is the stereotypical beer-drinking dumb ass.</p>
<p>So the men do the analysis and the women provide the eye-candy. It&#8217;s a classic case of a marketplace decision that results in a lower quality product that sells better than a high quality product.</p>
<p>If you want to see the eye candy situation taken to a truly absurd level, watch Jillian Reynolds on FOX NFL Sunday. Her job is to dress, talk and behave like a total bimbo. Trust me, it will make you sick.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ Jckson</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ Jckson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep feeling mischievous and wanting to leave some random extreme sexist/chauvinist comment just to get lambasted by you all.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Something beavis and butthead-ish, but I&#039;d probably get banned from commenting here thereafter :-)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I can only say this: for me, content is king, and it really does not matter to me which set of reproductive organs you have....and frankly, especially when the talk is of food, I&#039;d rather not hear about them (as I did in another rlocal food blog in the very recent past)  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good writing is good writing.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good content is good content.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Topical aside: I know of at LEAST two female bloggers who parlayed their blog fame into a real paying job - restaurant girl and the girl who ate everything, both in NYC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep feeling mischievous and wanting to leave some random extreme sexist/chauvinist comment just to get lambasted by you all.  </p>
<p>Something beavis and butthead-ish, but I&#8217;d probably get banned from commenting here thereafter <img src='http://winemedinemecincinnati.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I can only say this: for me, content is king, and it really does not matter to me which set of reproductive organs you have&#8230;.and frankly, especially when the talk is of food, I&#8217;d rather not hear about them (as I did in another rlocal food blog in the very recent past)  </p>
<p>Good writing is good writing.  </p>
<p>Good content is good content.</p>
<p>Topical aside: I know of at LEAST two female bloggers who parlayed their blog fame into a real paying job &#8211; restaurant girl and the girl who ate everything, both in NYC.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WestEnder: You&#039;re progressive and in touch with your feminine side. I like that in a man!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think Kari&#039;s point that women can be successful but often things are asked/assumed/etc. of or about women that are never asked/assumed/etc. of or about men.  That bothers me. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Are women not taken seriously as sportswriters because there&#039;s a history of them being simply &quot;eye candy&quot; and not serious reporters?  This is a real question: I know next to nothing about sports reporting (which is so stereotypical, isn&#039;t it?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WestEnder: You&#8217;re progressive and in touch with your feminine side. I like that in a man!</p>
<p>I think Kari&#8217;s point that women can be successful but often things are asked/assumed/etc. of or about women that are never asked/assumed/etc. of or about men.  That bothers me. </p>
<p>Are women not taken seriously as sportswriters because there&#8217;s a history of them being simply &#8220;eye candy&#8221; and not serious reporters?  This is a real question: I know next to nothing about sports reporting (which is so stereotypical, isn&#8217;t it?).</p>
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		<title>By: WestEnder</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestEnder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First let me say for the record that I dig chicks.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think quality is what matters. It may not get noticed right away but eventually quality cannot be ignored.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think it&#039;s a mistake to generalize based on a few examples. There are many more examples of women succeeding in traditionally male areas. Blogwise, consider Wonkette, Huffington Post, Michelle Malkin, and Majikthise to name a few.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What about business writer (and Pulitzer winner) Gretchen Morgensen? How about Nina Totenberg? The staff of PBS&#039;s NewsHour? CNBC World has several business themed shows staffed by women. These are traditionally male areas but these women excel in their jobs and are taken seriously.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And let&#039;s be honest: some blogs are just bad. Some female writers are bad. Some female politicians are bad. It&#039;s not sexist to say it. I know one female blogger who rejected all criticism of Hillary Clinton as sexist.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One area where women are not taken as seriously is sports reporting. Buy it cannot be denied that they are commonplace as sports reporters. The truth is most of them are awful and everyone knows it. But the good ones ARE taken seriously because they&#039;re good. Mary Carillo (tennis) is a good example.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That&#039;s my opinion but I&#039;m a guy so nobody probably cares what I think which makes me want to cry like a girl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First let me say for the record that I dig chicks.</p>
<p>I think quality is what matters. It may not get noticed right away but eventually quality cannot be ignored.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a mistake to generalize based on a few examples. There are many more examples of women succeeding in traditionally male areas. Blogwise, consider Wonkette, Huffington Post, Michelle Malkin, and Majikthise to name a few.</p>
<p>What about business writer (and Pulitzer winner) Gretchen Morgensen? How about Nina Totenberg? The staff of PBS&#8217;s NewsHour? CNBC World has several business themed shows staffed by women. These are traditionally male areas but these women excel in their jobs and are taken seriously.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s be honest: some blogs are just bad. Some female writers are bad. Some female politicians are bad. It&#8217;s not sexist to say it. I know one female blogger who rejected all criticism of Hillary Clinton as sexist.</p>
<p>One area where women are not taken as seriously is sports reporting. Buy it cannot be denied that they are commonplace as sports reporters. The truth is most of them are awful and everyone knows it. But the good ones ARE taken seriously because they&#8217;re good. Mary Carillo (tennis) is a good example.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my opinion but I&#8217;m a guy so nobody probably cares what I think which makes me want to cry like a girl.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin LeMaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin LeMaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Did you have the opportunity to speak with Liz Wu at the bloggers convention?  She wrote the article for Soapbox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie,</p>
<p>Did you have the opportunity to speak with Liz Wu at the bloggers convention?  She wrote the article for Soapbox.</p>
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